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One problem I've continually struggled with are my rolls. Once I switched over to 1st and 2nd bass drum I really started developing a lot of bad habits for my rolls. Mainly I think it has to do with my left hand but check out this video to see what I'm doing wrong so you can offer some useful advice to correct the situation.
you need to slow down what you are doing first and practice it slowly to a click and start with your left , you need to reprograme the faults you have in the left hand and by doing the above you will change what your muscle memory will remember . do it slow and correct for a couple of weeks and im sure you will see an improvement . cheers
Shmop™ Says i agree with haley19jsb
Submitted On: Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 9:21 AM
i usually double stick my drum rolls, seems a bit easier that way for me. looks like your timing on your left hand down stroke is slightly slower then your right. even out the left hand to match the right, problem solved, just takes a lot of practice
zulukingguy Says hmmmm
Submitted On: Thursday, May 7, 2009 - 12:50 AM
sounds a lot like my double stroke rolls.
now a little bit about myself: been practically playing drums for 14 years, though i've had a real drum kit in front of me for less than 6 months. i have been playing on all sorts of surfaces and artisanal drums, fact that ensured me to be free of bad habits, free of any habits for that matter. i found myself to be better than your active average drummer incidentally, when i joined a heavy metal band.one fact i noticed about myself since then is that, despite the fact that i am right handed, i tend to do some things the left-handed way...if you practice snowboarding and you are a "goofy" you know what i mean. now...this should help you establish just how much credit you give me.
ok...now on to the solution.i realized that it is not so much in my strokes but actually in my brain that the problem with the double stroke rolls . the only way i could imagine to be helpful was to invert my style altogether. so what i did was to switch from playing hi-hat with my right, snare with my left, hi-hat again with my left foot and bass with my right foot to a total inversion: hi-hat with left hand, bass with left foot, snare with right hand and hi-hat again with right foot. mind you the crashes became tricky ;) i found it to be helpful as it helped me catch up with my left side of the body...in about two weeks i managed to reduce the difference between my left and my right substantially.
hope you find it helpful
cheerio
zulukingguy Says sounds like my problem
Submitted On: Thursday, May 7, 2009 - 12:37 AM
hmm sounds a lot like my rolls.
first, a bit about myself:been practically playing for almost 14 years, even though I've had a real drum kit in front of me for less than 6 months. I've been playing on all kinds of surfaces and all sorts of home made drums.that ensured me being free of bad habits, or any type of habits for that matter. incidentally i found myself to be better than active drummers when joined a heavy metal band...i also found out that even though i am right handed i tend to do certain things the left handed way. if you practice snowboarding and are a regular you know what i mean. now...this should help u assess just how much credit you give my comment.
i found that it is not my left arm that is necessarily weaker, but its
now on to the solution part.
J.D.Legg Says dub strks
Submitted On: Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 - 2:33 PM
well my best read on this is your attack...it seemed a bit timid at the initiation of the first stroke. try using more "weight" in your hands...the attack alone will regulate your sound quality. another thing is playing to the "check". the check pattern is just natural/alternating sticking w/out double strokes and matching stick heights *cleanly*<---(very important.) focus on the check underneath the dubs. try using only thumb, middle, ring, and pinky fingers to roll, while letting your pointer chill out or something lol, then gradualy bring it back into the fulcrum...as for the left hand...try some exercises with left hand lead or something. on the other hand...you're utilizing your arms and wrists to a beautiful perfection! DO NOT lose that man!
Recipe for dubs and sound quality ;)
-**Initiate Good Attack**
-Play to the *Check*
-use all the *fingers*
-use *weight of hands*
Helpful exercises: "16th note timing" or "timing" and "chicken and a roll"
p.s.- make sure your tempo doesn't suffer when transitioning stick heights between 1-3inch and 9-12inch strokes.
if7084 Says Help in Double Strokes
Submitted On: Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 - 12:38 AM
Play a repetitive drum pattern (ex. basic rock beat) and focus on the double taps of the left hand. To do this, play 2 notes (2e) and on the 4, instead play (4e). Now play the pattern. Instead of playing one stroke for the 2 and 4, play an eight note followed by a sixteeth note next to it. It should sound like this.
1 2e 3 4e. and repeat that. Or just do: 1e 2e 3e 4e, from a repetitve drum pattern.
If that doesn't work. Try the Push-Pull technique slowly and then gradually increase the tempo and add in the right hand playing doubles with it. If that doesn't work. I don't know what else to do.
Oleary Says good advice!
Submitted On: Saturday, Aug 16, 2008 - 3:44 PM
I'll give that a shot... Sometimes the simple things are what counts..
haley19jsb Says help me
Submitted On: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 - 7:37 PM
it sounds like your left hand is dragging a little bit.
just think 1e+a 2e+a ...
try doing 16th notes slowly but with the double sticking (RR LL)
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[+] Add Commentjohn lezana Says o.k try this
Submitted On: Thursday, Sep 30, 2010 - 4:59 PM
you need to slow down what you are doing first and practice it slowly to a click and start with your left , you need to reprograme the faults you have in the left hand and by doing the above you will change what your muscle memory will remember . do it slow and correct for a couple of weeks and im sure you will see an improvement . cheers
Shmop™ Says i agree with haley19jsb
Submitted On: Sunday, May 24, 2009 - 9:21 AM
i usually double stick my drum rolls, seems a bit easier that way for me. looks like your timing on your left hand down stroke is slightly slower then your right. even out the left hand to match the right, problem solved, just takes a lot of practice
zulukingguy Says hmmmm
Submitted On: Thursday, May 7, 2009 - 12:50 AM
sounds a lot like my double stroke rolls.
now a little bit about myself: been practically playing drums for 14 years, though i've had a real drum kit in front of me for less than 6 months. i have been playing on all sorts of surfaces and artisanal drums, fact that ensured me to be free of bad habits, free of any habits for that matter. i found myself to be better than your active average drummer incidentally, when i joined a heavy metal band.one fact i noticed about myself since then is that, despite the fact that i am right handed, i tend to do some things the left-handed way...if you practice snowboarding and you are a "goofy" you know what i mean. now...this should help you establish just how much credit you give me.
ok...now on to the solution.i realized that it is not so much in my strokes but actually in my brain that the problem with the double stroke rolls . the only way i could imagine to be helpful was to invert my style altogether. so what i did was to switch from playing hi-hat with my right, snare with my left, hi-hat again with my left foot and bass with my right foot to a total inversion: hi-hat with left hand, bass with left foot, snare with right hand and hi-hat again with right foot. mind you the crashes became tricky ;) i found it to be helpful as it helped me catch up with my left side of the body...in about two weeks i managed to reduce the difference between my left and my right substantially.
hope you find it helpful
cheerio
zulukingguy Says sounds like my problem
Submitted On: Thursday, May 7, 2009 - 12:37 AM
hmm sounds a lot like my rolls.
first, a bit about myself:been practically playing for almost 14 years, even though I've had a real drum kit in front of me for less than 6 months. I've been playing on all kinds of surfaces and all sorts of home made drums.that ensured me being free of bad habits, or any type of habits for that matter. incidentally i found myself to be better than active drummers when joined a heavy metal band...i also found out that even though i am right handed i tend to do certain things the left handed way. if you practice snowboarding and are a regular you know what i mean. now...this should help u assess just how much credit you give my comment.
i found that it is not my left arm that is necessarily weaker, but its
now on to the solution part.
J.D.Legg Says dub strks
Submitted On: Saturday, Dec 27, 2008 - 2:33 PM
well my best read on this is your attack...it seemed a bit timid at the initiation of the first stroke. try using more "weight" in your hands...the attack alone will regulate your sound quality. another thing is playing to the "check". the check pattern is just natural/alternating sticking w/out double strokes and matching stick heights *cleanly*<---(very important.) focus on the check underneath the dubs. try using only thumb, middle, ring, and pinky fingers to roll, while letting your pointer chill out or something lol, then gradualy bring it back into the fulcrum...as for the left hand...try some exercises with left hand lead or something. on the other hand...you're utilizing your arms and wrists to a beautiful perfection! DO NOT lose that man!
Recipe for dubs and sound quality ;)
-**Initiate Good Attack**
-Play to the *Check*
-use all the *fingers*
-use *weight of hands*
Helpful exercises: "16th note timing" or "timing" and "chicken and a roll"
p.s.- make sure your tempo doesn't suffer when transitioning stick heights between 1-3inch and 9-12inch strokes.
if7084 Says Help in Double Strokes
Submitted On: Wednesday, Oct 8, 2008 - 12:38 AM
Play a repetitive drum pattern (ex. basic rock beat) and focus on the double taps of the left hand. To do this, play 2 notes (2e) and on the 4, instead play (4e). Now play the pattern. Instead of playing one stroke for the 2 and 4, play an eight note followed by a sixteeth note next to it. It should sound like this.
1 2e 3 4e. and repeat that. Or just do: 1e 2e 3e 4e, from a repetitve drum pattern.
If that doesn't work. Try the Push-Pull technique slowly and then gradually increase the tempo and add in the right hand playing doubles with it. If that doesn't work. I don't know what else to do.
Oleary Says good advice!
Submitted On: Saturday, Aug 16, 2008 - 3:44 PM
I'll give that a shot... Sometimes the simple things are what counts..
haley19jsb Says help me
Submitted On: Friday, Aug 8, 2008 - 7:37 PM
it sounds like your left hand is dragging a little bit.
just think 1e+a 2e+a ...
try doing 16th notes slowly but with the double sticking (RR LL)
hope this helps
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